opposite end is caring for aging parents, and that's generally the woman who does it. so our careers are bookended with child rearing and then, later on down the road, potentially caring for aging parents. >> a lot of women particularly in this industry, in broadcasting, were so focused on the career that they set aside, you know, the maternal instincts and the desire to have children only to realize, you know, it was a little bit too late, that window had closed up. a number of friends, you know, colleagues that dealt with that. >> yeah. >> was that an easy decision for you to make, that you knew you wanted to be your own woman? >> well, i was a mom early on, at 19 years old. i had my daughter then. so when i started my company, my >> okay. >> so, but 14, you know, is a very, you know, that's an age that you really have to watch them, be there for them, listen to them.